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by pinkgolem 176 days ago
The linked surveillance talk has nearly 0 references to computers and is all about media/reporting
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> The linked surveillance talk has nearly 0 references to computers and is all about media/reporting

(link to the talk: https://media.ccc.de/v/34c3-8969-die_sprache_der_uberwacher )

Surveillance has relevance to core CCC/hacking topics (privacy is a central topic against which hackers fight), so I can understand why the organisers decided to include this talk in the schedule: they considered it to be a good idea that the audience should also get a "non-computer perspective" on a topic that is highly relevant to hackers.

But I agree that for the decision to include or not include this specific talk, the organisers have to apply an exceptionally good judgement: if they make a "wrong" decision here, people will immediately (rightfully) complain that the talks are too political (or if they "wronged" by non-inclusion of this talk, the other side will complain that important topics are omitted).

> Surveillance has relevance to core CCC/hacking topics (privacy is a central topic against which hackers fight)

Great, who exactly is making those rules for all hackers?

People have complained about this for atleast the last 15 years where I have been active, to political, not political enough.

Stop complaining, start creating.

> Great, who exactly is making those rules for all hackers?

For example the Hacker Ethic by Steven Levy is very well-accepted:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hacker_ethic&oldi...

> Stop complaining, start creating.

Who says that I don't do?