[yjftsjthsd-h]

> And once we are done with X11, lets put pulseaudio to the grave!

That'll happen first, I think. The trick is that pipewire is actually a fully functional replacement, instead of trying to declare everything out of scope, so with only minor effort people can just switch and everything works.

[account42]

It's still a mess compared to what it should be (and imho compared to plain ALSA, which itself made many wrong choices compared to OSS).