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by cycomanic 171 days ago
By now I am not sure if these posts can stil be given the benefit of the doubt or are just dishonest. Who were the developers pushing wayland because of their employers? Kristian Høgsberg (who was a significant xorg developer, because people always deny that wayland was written by xorg guys) originally developed wayland in his free time, it then became a freedesktop project (I would argue not a group run by corporates).

The most active implementation (particularly in the early days) is probably wlroots, started by Drew deVault (again in his free time), who is often quite vocal against corporate control.

In fact the large desktop environments, which are much more under "corporate control", were comparitavely slow to adapt wayland IIRC.

So instead of repeating this accusation, maybe actually give some evidence?
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account42 157 days ago
> a freedesktop project (I would argue not a group run by corporates)

Then you'd be wrong. Freedesktop is essentially RedHat and friends.

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coryrc 171 days ago
I didn't think my explanation implied how you interpreted it.

I thought everybody knew Wayland was started by some people working on Xorg already; I did not mean to imply otherwise. Many or all were paid for their work. They believed Wayland was a better approach, and, AFAIK, at some point switched to be paid full-time to work on Wayland instead of X. Which, sounds a lot like they convinced their employer (or a new employer) to pay them to work on Wayland instead of X. Do you believe this is a fair summary of the situation?

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cycomanic 171 days ago
> I didn't think my explanation implied how you interpreted it. > > I thought everybody knew Wayland was started by some people working on Xorg already; I did not mean to imply otherwise. Many or all were paid for their work. They believed Wayland was a better approach, and, AFAIK, at some point switched to be paid full-time to work on Wayland instead of X. Which, sounds a lot like they convinced their employer (or a new employer) to pay them to work on Wayland instead of X. Do you believe this is a fair summary of the situation?

Sorry for my combatitive before. I definitely interpreted your previous post differently and I think your clarification is a fairer assessment of the situation. I would still argue that the majority of people implementing the wayland protocol are not paid by their employers to do so (this might now have changed a bit with smithay, which is sponsored by system76 I believe).

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