[hogrug]

> Eliminating cars doesn’t eliminate the need for infrastructure for moving goods.

Burying other last mile utilities that waste less land was not insane when real estate was a fraction as valuable as now and engineering technology was worse.

[dpark]

I wonder how many miles of fiber would have been laid if fiber required a tunnel big enough to drive a delivery truck through.

[hogrug]

You bring up an interesting point for the US to have a first world level of fiber to the home it needs to require diesel.

[dpark]

When I see bad faith arguments like this I earnestly worry that maybe sometimes I do the same and just don’t recognize it.

Did you read my comment about the cost of laying fiber being far different from the cost of digging truck-sized tunnels and make a conscious choice to pretend I was making a nonsense argument about diesel-powered fiber, or did you construct this strawman without realizing it?

[hogrug]

I don't think you are trying to look at it rationally but simply in terms of priors where sprawl has cost an immense amount of resources. A tunnel where 2 pallets can cross is not much larger than a sewer, fits bellow a pedestrian/emergency vehicle system and is more valuable than a larger tunnel because it can never be DoT approved.