[Aurornis]

> At other times in history, leisure was the default state and work existed to enable leisure

It wasn’t that long ago that a lot of hard work was necessary to even survive through the winter each year.

What times in history had leisure as the default state? When was life so much easier than it is right now? Where were all the food, shelter, clothing, and entertainment materials coming from during this time and why was it so much more efficient than today?

[eru]

> It wasn’t that long ago that a lot of hard work was necessary to even survive through the winter each year.

Well, not all parts of the world have winters.

[Aurornis]

Every time this topic of historical leisure time comes up and people start bringing up problems with the theory, the goalposts start moving as fast as the conversation. Are we now only talking about people who didn’t live in areas with winters? Because those areas have different sets of problems including entirely different sets of insects, diseases, and predators that aren’t controlled by annual winters, among other things.