[pmlnr]

Email itself is federated. Sort of the original federated messaging.

[tptacek]

And the worst available secure messaging system.

[pmlnr]

And it's the best widely available, accessible, battle hardened, omnipresent messasing system.

[tptacek]

I disagree and think rather that people have a parasocial relationship with it, like they do with IRC.

[immibis]

Incorrect - that would be WhatsApp.

[leetnewb]

What do you think of a system like Delta Chat built on top?

[akerl_]

Trying to build a secure system on top of email is a waste of time and energy. Even if you succeeded, it would only be by compromising all the things that make email useful.

[BlueTemplar]

It cannot be the worst when it's not one.