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by e-dant 184 days ago
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It's still not practical. Humans just walk too slowly.

Let's be realistic here and accept the fact that anything that involves more than 1km of walking one way won't happen for 99% of people.

That's why we have bikes, for distances from 1km to 10-12km (one way).

And only after that should we have cars. Cars should also be reserved for very heavy loads (more than 50kg), groups of people (not single drivers, 2+ people in the car), and various other niche uses.

> And only after that should we have cars. Cars should also be reserved for very heavy loads (more than 50kg), groups of people (not single drivers, 2+ people in the car), and various other niche uses.

There is a (slightly) tongue in cheek video you should watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfBgQjByvXI

I don't want to spend 6 hours commuting a daily in the UK. I've done this btw in the UK a decade ago. It was miserable.

It just isn't possible to commute in places without a car. Especially once you get outside of a main transit hubs.

And that is perfectly fine, nobody should be exerting themselves needlessly. Where a car makes the most sense, use it.

But we should all campaign for better public transit, good bike infrastructure, good walking infrastructure, less car-only infrastructure, etc, etc.

> And that is perfectly fine, nobody should be exerting themselves needlessly. Where a car makes the most sense, use it.

That wasn't what you were suggesting by the way we worded it.

I said:

> Cars should also be reserved for [...] and various other niche uses.

to which you replied:

> I don't want to spend 6 hours commuting a daily in the UK. I've done this btw in the UK a decade ago. It was miserable.

6 hours per day commuting is 3 hours one way, which in almost every country in the world is called "super commuting" and it affects a very small minority of people:

https://www.jmfassociates.co.uk/news/news/how-long-is-the-av...

-> the average commute is under 30 minutes each way.

-> commutes longer than 2 hours affect only 2% of workers.

So yeah, that's what "niche" means.

Besides that, I literally listed some recommended distances (up to 1km for walking, up to 10-12k for cycling), don't tell me your commute was 3h one way for a distance under 12km? You can walk 12km in less than 3h one way :-)

If you watched the video. The point is that it was something like a 2 and a half hour commute via public transport, it was much shorter while driving. It isn't a "super commute" if you are travelling less than an hour.

A commute in a car that less than an hour isn't niche.

But it's only a good judgment call if you have the available transit + shopping time, able body, suitable climate, and a single store that has everything you need.

If any of those conditions are not satisfied then it's better economic utility to outsource that entire task and get your exercise and socialization by going to the gym. You can even walk to the gym too. You can outsource almost anything except exercise.