[Dylan16807]

Oh I didn't see this when you first replied.

At this point I just want to be clear on one thing:

I didn't say the ends justify the means. Something can be unjustified and pro-market at the same time. (And I was focusing on net effect.)

[tooltalk]

Sure, my initially argument was that it was good for China, but bad for the rest of the world because of China's anti-market practices that only benefited China. In other word, 2/3 of the world came out losing because of China's mercantile practices -- it's had negative net effect for the world.

Again, no point in talking in circles.