[amelius]

Ok, but what if your colleague does not have Vim installed?

Wouldn't it make more sense to have a tool that brings files over to the local computer, starts Vim on them, and then copies them back?

[Joker_vD]

That starts to sound like using VS Code in remote mode.

[exe34]

Emacs in tramp mode.

[QuinnyPig]

I can’t recall encountering a system in the last 15 years that didn’t have vim (or at least vi for esoteric things) on it.

[SoftTalker]

Would not be uncommon in a container or purpose-built VM.

[godelski]

Have you run into that? I can't recall ever facing that issue. Seems very weird to strip down that much and then use a different editor. Do you remember if ed was missing in those machines?

[bartvk]

> Do you remember if ed was missing in those machines

I had to laugh out loud. I couldn't imagine such a system, that wouldn't be POSIX compliant. So I looked it up, and indeed, it's entirely possible. Debian doesn't necessarily include it.

https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/609067

[SoftTalker]

Yes I've run into containers where every utility that wasn't needed to run the service was stripped out. Even tools such as "less."

[godelski]

So what was the editor?

[godelski]

While not mandatory, vi is part of the POSIX commands. I mean you could use ed or even hack your way with awk, sed, and/or grep but no one wants to deal with that bullshit. And if you're installing vi you might as well install vim, right?

I've been on a lot of systems and can't remember a single instance of not having vi (though I do vim). So pretty rare, like you said

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_POSIX_commands

[sdovan1]

We usually work on the VM with daily-built ISO. For example, I would compile and upload Java program to the frontend team member's VM, and type "srt" for "systemctl restart tomcat."