[neoromantique]

We are discussing 2014. Russian armed forces were present there from the get-go, and hybrid approaches were there long before 2014 too.

[stinkbeetle]

Was that when Obama capitulated to Putin and permitted him to annex Crimea? Perhaps that was the "more flexibility" that he secretly promised Putin he would have after his election. I wonder what he got in return for it.

[neoromantique]

I don't disagree? Merkel and Obama both.