[Forgeties79]

> any sexual behavior, such as a paraphilia, that is regarded as significantly different from the standards established by a culture or subculture. Deviant forms of sexual behavior may include voyeurism, fetishism, bestiality, necrophilia, sadism, and exhibitionism

I don’t see Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, or Transgender in here, which would absolutely be explicitly included in the list if it applied. Stop saying “sexual deviants” when talking about LGBT people. You know what you’re doing, it’s an incredibly loaded and inaccurate term. To continue calling them “sexual deviants” is a hostile and openly bigoted act. Bestiality and homosexuality are not in the same category and you are wrong to assert otherwise - all while masking it by misrepresenting the APA’s stance at that.

I am not discussing this further. Enjoy the rest of your weekend.

[somenameforme]

I'm not at all bigoted. If somebody genuinely is sexually attracted to the same sex, more power to them. Homosexuality also exists within nature and there are obviously people who simply have never been attracted to anything except the same sex since their first days. It's completely unreasonable to expect these people to try to change who they are on such a fundamental level, and so I think society, at large, should absolutely be tolerant of such.

But there is a major difference between tolerating something and endorsing it. I think this is especially true in modern times. 30% of people are obviously not LGB. So you have people acting out sexually in a way that's probably not only 'unnatural' for them, but may end up harming them longterm. It's not a great situation. Because of this I do not indulge language policing which I believe is much more towards endorse than tolerate. Yes you are obviously right I'm aware of what I'm doing, but I also assure you if we met and had a coffee you'd find me anything but bigoted or hostile. We just have different worldviews.

[aidenn0]

In the 1940s, Kinsey et. al. found that 37% of Adult Males had at least one homosexual experience, and 10% were "more or less exclusively homosexual for at least 3 years."

The numbers for women were much lower, but 30% doesn't seem crazy high if you consider the reduced stigma of the bisexual label would allow people who are primarily heterosexual, but are open to homosexual experiences to label themselves as bi.

[somenameforme]

Kinsey's work was poor quality and suffered from irreconcilable volunteer bias. It was completely based on people willing to be interviewed, in excessive detail and in his uniquely invasive 1 on 1 fashion, about their most intimate sexual experiences. Even today that is not something which 'normal' people agree to, and this was done during the 40s and 50s! On top of that he made 0 effort whatsoever to obtain a representative sample of society, so it's a biased sample of a biased sample, which drives an exponential deviation from reality due to multiplicative biasing.

This is where you get his conclusions such as 37% of men having had a homosexual experience, or 69% of men having purchased a prostitute. It's plainly ridiculous.