[Izmaki]

I'd love to believe you, but as a European who - for some reason - never get these sightings unlike Americans, I find it hard to do so. Either our mysterious alien friends really love USA or you guys have some condition that the entire Europe does not, e.g., permissions to test military equipment without having to announce it to the public, let alone the freedom to move around in a large area without it becoming a political drama.

Imagine if the German military started doing unannounced missions in neighboring countries... now imagine if a military base in the US send a couple of fighter jets from one state to another state and back. Only one of those situations would give a cluster f** of international drama, thus "odd sightings" i.e. covert military operations could be more common in the US than the rest of the world.

I'd love to believe... but it always only happens in USA.

[anthk]

Spaniard there; there used to be UFO's in the 70's... coincidentally near the US military bases ;)

There was an infamous one in the Canary Islands.

Also, weird events under Huelva. A few paranormal, but some of them not religion/spiritual based.

If the aliens were real, their technology for sure would look as magic for humans. No, forget flying saucers or whatever. These kind of civilizations would have totally different ways to travel thousands of kilometers across the galaxy.

Teleporting "magic" would just be mundane technology for them.

A simple AM radio receiver with a wire, a coil and a magnet would just be sorcery for even the upper elite from the medieval times. And today an Elementary kid can build a simple receiver with junk from a junkyard or scraps from a workbench.

EDIT:

BTW, I forgot: on paranormal stuff on Huelva, I meant something like this:

https://0x0.st/Pr1Y.txt

I don't care about ouija's, haunted houses and whatever related to either ghosts or to religious stuff.

[jibal]

The laws of physics are the same for aliens.

And there is no "paranormal stuff".

[anthk]

The related news was broadcasted in Spain on serious TV news at lunch, not from some Alex Jones-lite kind of show with Reiki and the like.

On the laws of physics, we are like toddlers discovering an adult world. The quaterion concept it's almost from yesterday, and yet it drives real world stuff. Even networks, such as some hypercubic topology, as the one I've seen from mycrovtif. Yes, it's bound to the Hamming code, too. You don't need to break physics, but understand them better. And the case it's that there no intuition once you drive QM, where even 'particles' collide into themselves.

Said this, my point will serve as a slight hint in order to successfully understand the rest.

[jibal]

> The related news was broadcasted in Spain on serious TV news at lunch, not from some Alex Jones-lite kind of show with Reiki and the like.

Completely irrelevant.

> On the laws of physics, we are like toddlers discovering an adult world.

Perhaps you are, but not everyone is. FLT travel is well known to be impossible.

[anthk]

For an advanced civilization with huge Physics understanding, travel wouldn't be the correct word (moving through space with light speed bound limits).

For instance, when people talk about quantum entangling, information doesn't 'travel' faster than light. There's no transmission, in a similar way that here woudln't be any dx over t. There would be no actual move.

[jibal]

Asserting that physics knowledge purportedly incomprehensible to us would enable this or that is radical bad faith, exacerbated by dishonest word games. No transmission of information means no move, no travel, and so this advanced civilization can't get here, flatly contradicting previous claims. And as I said, our knowledge of physics is adequate to establish this. And that on top of nonsense about "paranormal" being authenticated because it was broadcast on "serious" Spanish television, not Alex Jones--which is a totally circular and bizarrely gullible argument from authority--TV and other mass media is rife with nonsense, especially in this area.

I won't comment further.

P.S. I finally bothered to look at their link: https://0x0.st/Pr1Y.txt

That's the dumbest crap I've ever read. If this was presented on Spanish TV then it's no better than Alex Jones, and no one with an IQ above room temperature believes this happened.

[elcritch]

> Either our mysterious alien friends really love USA

The USA is the best, who'd blame them! Perhaps aliens love American cheeseburgers and milkshakes from their time in Roswell. ;P

> you guys have some condition that the entire Europe does not, e.g., permissions to test military equipment without having to announce it to the public, let alone the freedom to move around in a large area without it becoming a political drama.

That's an interesting take. Though surely Germany or others have some more remote areas. Scotland has lots of empty land and the UK airforce right?

Then again, the amount of empty space in the wester US is not to be underestimated. I live near Mountain Home Idaho. If you drive over the desert to Nevada you cross air force land with big signs warning about it being an active test grounds. Lots of people have had fighter jets fly up and do simulated bombing runs on them as they drive through.

[anthk]

EDIT: wrong answer, sorry.

[jibal]

I think you're confused about who you're responding to.

[Izmaki]

I wasn't, I just missed the "not" in your reply that was phrased as an agreement. :) My bad. Sleepy eyes.

[jibal]

Sorry about the double negative, but I think the rest of my comment made my position clear.