[webwanderings]

I know one person's opinion doesn't matter, but I owe it as my duty to tell a parting friend that I am parting ways. Given that this friend has no interest in taking people's opinions (there is no official mechanism in place to take opinions), HN is as good as any other place to make statements.

Now, why the "fuck" do you care if what I write here has anything to do with the article or not? Perhaps something is lurking behind the shadow you may want to look after?

[shardling]

>Now, why the "fuck" do you care if what I write here has anything to do with the article or not?

For the simple reason that noise drowns out signal, and because every damn article mentioning Firefox brings out someone saying the same thing.

If you had in some way brought it around to this particular release, your comment would have been on topic. Maybe there's a particular feature you've finally given up waiting for. Maybe some recent change in the UI that you dislike. Whatever! Don't just post empty blather, though.

("Fuck" here is simply used as emphasis, to indicate that I am exasperated by the prevalence of such empty comments.)

[webwanderings]

"every damn article mentioning Firefox brings out someone saying the same thing."

Agree, but people making such comments are also real and they may be as exasperated as you are.

[sabret00the]

Thanks for putting some context on your content. I too was wondering what you were getting at with it. In regards to Mozilla "not listening", did you file bugs for your ideas/gripes?

[webwanderings]

No, I didn't and I wouldn't. I already mentioned, as an average user .... I don't think average users care for bugs or gripes via reports.

In any case, given that my comment is being treated like any other noise, here's a few words to make it distinguishable...for whatever it is worth and for whoever that cares.

1. Whatever the heck is happening with Tags in bookmarks? Is anyone working on adopting any standards? People don't realize but holding up your bookmarks in FF via Tags is a death trap. Chrome apparently is not willing to support the tags and you will be stuck with FF if you care deeply about Tagging your bookmarks. Besides, FF for long has stopped innovating (read developing) their Bookmarks Manager.

2. Speed: No matter what anyone says and no matter the reasons, Chrome is certainly speedier. Besides, in my example (I use only two add-on and limited number of tabs) my hard drive spins and makes noise whenever I am on FF and it is absolutely silent when I am on Chrome (please don't blame my profile for it, I use multiple profiles and I know how to clean etc).

3. Syncing on Chrome is as straightforward as it should be and they also encrypt data.

Just a few on top of my list.

[gkanai]

> 3. Syncing on Chrome is as straightforward as it should be and they also encrypt data.

Firefox Sync is also straightforward (and syncs with Firefox for Android as well) and is also encrypted.

[cleer]

While I was interning at Mozilla last summer, I developed this design and prototype for a new bookmarks manager: https://github.com/cleercode/mozaic Also worked a bit on Panorama.

Unfortunately, didn't really get any momentum (mainly because there's just a long pipeline of things that are higher priorities), but maybe it'll go somewhere in the future. I agree that it's a weak point.

[shardling]

I guess I'd question what a bookmark manager is used for. The search is so good, that I only ever interface with bookmarks through the URL bar.

[mikeratcliffe]

Is that an effort to merge bookmarks and Panorama?

[sabret00the]

How can they listen if you're not actually talking. It's like buying a product from China and then moaning in your living room there's a defect rather than actually telling them.