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by PaulRobinson 188 days ago
Couldn't agree with you more. The internet has, to borrow the word of the moment, become enshittified, and people think that's "normal".

People accept that platforms should be centralised, and that they should harvest your data in order to sell it to adtech companies who will then feed it to an industry that learns in real-time how to prey on your darkest fears to sell you things you don't need but might make you feel slightly less sad for a second. And people just accept it: that's normal these days.

They even call it doom-scrolling, and don't ask "wait, should I want to scroll through actual doom? Is the occasional video that makes me smile really worth it all?"

Perhaps it's my age, but I can't understand anybody who says their main form of media consumption is YouTube. How? How do you actually put up with that, knowing what is behind every mouse movement and click, and the knowledge that every single pixel in front of you is being tweaked by robotic neuroscientists squeezing every drop out of A/B tests to make you feel like utter crap? Like, seriously, WTAF?

HN is popular within its niche precisely because it isn't like that. It is not "a platform", in the modern and now normalised sense. It links out to other sites and asks people to come back together to discuss what they saw there. Old school. No ad tracking. No doom scrolling. Pick what you like. Click it, don't click it. Discuss it, don't discuss it. Nobody is tracking "engagement". There's some gamification, but does anyone _really_ care?

This type of interaction is entirely native to my generation and older (I just squeak into millennial, on the older side), but feels completely bonkers to people who think Facebook, Instagram and TikTok are what is normal and how the Internet works.

Some of know they're not normal. We know they're aberrations, ghouls that prey on unwitting masses.

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YouTube is easily the best “social network” in terms of having high-quality content with minimal manipulation. And I definitely consider it my main form of media consumption.

You just have to curate your feed and add stuff to playlists, not watch whatever is on the logged-out default home page.

Is watching videos considered a social activity now? The word "social" truly seems to have been tortured to death.
What? You have to do a lot of curation and fighting the service itself (hiding shorts) to get to a bearable level. And I did not spend hours clicking things I don't like. I mostly just watch movies/clips I want, but my recommendations are full of clickbait manipulative garbage. So yes, one can find jewels in it - but only if digging through the garbage first.
I watch a ton of great content by people that I subscribe to. It's not difficult or complicated to get there.

Not sure what else to say.

But you don't agree it took a lot of effort to hide the garbage?
Not really, if anything, there is too much stuff I want to watch that is suggested to me.

I suppose if you created an account today you'd be fed a lot of garbage, but I've been watching YouTube often for at least a couple years.