[neilv]

He sounds like an intelligent but misguided teenager. Maybe he's not a bad kid, and just needs better role models than the companies he mentions.

If we never do things that later make us cringe and want to correct, we're not reflective and self-critical enough.

[mlsu]

He just got a $1 mil series A. Better role models? He is a role model, at least in the society we've decided to build.

[hallole]

I think he's old enough to be tried as an adult here. He architected the product, it was no silly accident. I think his choice of role models may be a reflection of his character...

[anigbrowl]

Not too sure about that syllogism. Surely reflection and self-criticism is about the correction part, vs the not-doing-it-in-the-first-place part.

[ipython]

FWIW, I agree with you. I think that great role models are sadly in short supply these days.

[thephyber]

I don’t think they are in short supply, but the vast majority of them aren’t the super-successful so we don’t see their names often.

They are the teachers, coaches, and engineers. The problem is the anti- role models are the ones who get all of the media:

Andrew Tate (mysogenistic pyramid schemer and pimp / sex trafficker of high school girls),

Joe Rogan (his mind is so open that his brains fell out),

Jordan B Peterson (charlatan who dresses up banal self-help advice with pseudo-intellectual jargon to seem profound, drug addict who is still taking very big risks with his health, frequently argues strawmans by misrepresenting postmodernism, Marxism, atheism, etc).

Our heuristics of who we should look up to are skewed because too many young people revere wrath and fame over ethics, morals, and values which may hold us back from success.

[yunnpp]

Never seen a better description of Jordan B Peterson. Should also add climate-change denier there.

[thephyber]

Typo from autocomplete: r/wrath/wealth/

[rolandog]

Exactly, concentration of attention onto singular figures as role models should be avoided; kind of like how we agree that it is healthier for the EU citizens to have a more diverse market than concentrated monopolies.

We do have to recognize that we have societally dropped the ball by allowing media companies brainwash the population into thinking that money and fame is unquestionable success; this has allowed the corporate mouth pieces to blow so much hot air into the bullshit they spew, that turds end up floating to the top.

What is clear as day is that we live in a world where Brandolini's law is being exploited constantly: that there is a constant fight to DARVO the heck out of our perceptions is undeniable.

We need to normalize bringing receipts to back your claims...

How to teach the average person not to follow the siren's song of populism and rage baiting?? That, I have not yet figured out.

[PacificSpecific]

It's admittedly a bit tasteless but Nick Mullins Jordan Peterson impression leaves me in tears every time.

[dredmorbius]

This? <https://packaged-media.redd.it/6s7wjgqttnf81/pb/m2-res_480p....> (mp4).

[PacificSpecific]

Different Nick Mullins haha.

If you search "cumtown Nick Mullins Jordan Peterson" on YouTube that should get you there (yes it's crass but in the context of Jordan Peterson it's funny)