[pavel_lishin]

> Until EVs solve the cost problem as well as the "tracking device" and the "I have 8 iPads built into the dash" problems I'm not very excited.

Are these problems exclusive to EVs?

[everdrive]

Yes. For ICE cars I can just buy older cars. _Some_ modern ICE cars avoid this. As recently as 2024 the Nissan Frontier base model has no cellular modem, and also only has one small screen but otherwise has physical buttons and physical gauges.

The Slate would be the only EV coming out that avoids this problem, which combined with the price is one of the reasons I'm interested.

[bluGill]

You can buy an old ICE and convert to electric. At this point most ICE that isn't a tracking device is old enough that you need to be comfortable doing your own maintenance anyway so the effort of the above is no longer an excuse.

[_aavaa_]

Good luck getting it insured.

[bluGill]

People do this all the time. Insurance is available. You can't get a scrap car, but if there is a valid title you can insure it.

[dabluecaboose]

The problem isn't exclusive to EVs, but thus far EVs are exclusively aforementioned rolling iPads.

With ICE cars, at least you still have the (dwindling) option of buying an older vehicle

[bdcravens]

No, but I believe that EVs tend to have way more bells and whistles to create some perceived value due to the inherently higher cost.