[mancerayder]

Is Brave so persona-non-grata? I find that it's a 'don't ask don't tell' because of some ancient politics. If Firefox is becoming suspect, WHAT is left?

I found Chrome+adblockers NOT good enough. I like (and hate) Brave's shield, as I never figured out how to use wildcards to whitelist a whole domain / subdomain, it seems per-host. But that Brave shield WORKS.

Now people are going back to Chrome? Really?

[eloisant]

Brave is just one of the dozen Chromium-based browsers. It's still Chromium.

[broken-kebab]

It's Chromium-based, sure. But it blocks ads and does it well

[AstroNutt]

Too bad arnaud42 over on XDA Developers quit supporting Kiwi, even though was Chromium. It was my favorite browser ever for Android. Hopefully, someone will pick up the torch and keep it going soon.

[eqvinox]

The crypto bullshit Brave was (and somehow still is) pulling is way worse than Firefox's enshittificAItion.

[jm4]

You can disable all that stuff. We used to have email clients, newsgroup clients, HTML editors, etc. built into our browsers. It used to be about creating a suite of tools to meet all your needs on the web. Since then, all that stuff just moved to web apps that you access using the browser so that's mostly all that remains. Vivaldi still has an email client available. A crypto wallet isn't the end of the world. I look at it as sort of a modern throwback to Netscape Communicator, which Brendan Eich helped create.

The BAT stuff is definitely more controversial, but mostly only because Brave blocks others' ads in lieu of their own. It was an interesting idea to present an alternative method for a privacy-respecting ad-supported web. Personally, I wouldn't be as aggressive in blocking ads if they weren't so intrusive and didn't compromise my privacy or security. I look at that whole thing as a swing and miss. I'm not going to beat them up for trying something new when we can all see that the modern web is a cesspool.

You can still turn all that crap off, which is what I do when I use Brave, and you have a pretty solid browser.

[broken-kebab]

Not really. You can use Brave completely ignoring crypto side, and it won't complain.

[EbNar]

the crypto stuff is completely opt-in.