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by traceroute66 189 days ago
Dude....

> there has been 0, zero, niente, nada, rien proper discussion in the EU on WHY UK left!

There has been no discussion because the reason for UK leaving was stupid.

It was based on an election manifesto pledge by the Conservative Party. A party propped up by a declining population of boomers who think life was better in the 50s.

The whole Brexit campaign was dominated by loud voices from the lunatics in the right-hand corner of the Conservative Party, and propped up by Mr Farage.

It means that idiots like farmers and fishermen voted for Brexit even though it would kill their export markets overnight, and remove their ability for skilled Eastern European seasonal workers to come pick their fruit.

> In the UK there is no ID card,

The whole "there is no papers please" in the UK is a total load of bullshit often mentioned by the pro-Brexit brigade.

For example, you say "your address is stated by bank account address". When was the last time you tried to open a bank account in the UK WITHOUT photographic ID ? In theory you can, but in practice its almost certainly going to be more interesting to hit your head against a brick wall.

You also say " in other EU countries (much less civilized I would add), police can force you to a police station if you do not have the national ID in your pocket"....

Well, actually in the UK the police can ask for your name and address. And if they think you are not giving them the correct name and address (or you refuse to identify yourself), they can arrest you until such time as you can prove your ID.

It is the same if the police stop you for a driving offence. You are required to produce (a) Driving license (b) Insurance (c) MOT. Insurance and MOT can be verified electronically these days. But if you cannot produce your driving license at the scene then you will be required to present at a police station within seven days.