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by 1718627440 178 days ago
Sorry for the late reply.

> classifying expropriations of their wealth as theft

Like I wrote earlier the average homeless also wants to have "expropriations" of his things to be classified as theft. Normalizing "expropriations" also results in a self-education to an attitude that does not fare well in a society.

> ignores the power differences between the parties in the contract.

No we are not "ignoring power differences". That is why we have (labor) laws after all, whose independent application you also don't seem to like. Laws only limit the powerful, the powerless would be even more at the mercy of the powerful without (enforced) laws, as this is the very meaning of having or not having power.

I do not think that the existence of Amazon and people like Bezos, is the result of a healthy, competitive market. If anything it has destroyed the very same. The actions of Amazon are borderline to literally illegal, which is why they need to transport the workers across country borders to evade law enforcement.

> These relationships wouldn’t exist if the parties were on equal footing.

Which is why these relationships are affected by labor laws. If you want to suggest, that we should invest in law enforcement to deal with these issues or maybe tweak the laws a bit, to make more of that behaviour illegal, then I agree.

> Wealth differences are power differences.

Yes.

> The power differences give rise to exploitative relationships.

Given the absence of a healthy state, yes.

> Wealth differences aren’t a fact of nature.

Maybe.

> They are a result of how we as humans have organized our societies.

Yes.

> We have made this and we can unmake it.

Citation needed.

> Sucking our thumbs and saying “that’s just the way things are”

This is a strawman, nobody is suggesting that.

I do not want to be subject to the "ideological apparatus" that rises from your ideas. I would if my dad hasn't fought against it, under threat of live to him and the family (which is why my grandfather was against it). No I very much do not want to see how your ideas work out in practice AGAIN. Read a history book.

> Wealth differences are power differences and as such impinge on freedom

I think we also have a different definition of freedom as well. Having less choices doesn't make you less free. Arbitrary limiting choices does. Not being able to snip your fingers and be rich, doesn't make you unfree, if anything being attached to wealth makes you unfree. Forcing you to work for someone, forbidding you from buying or selling a product makes you unfree.