[jeroenhd]

Curacao is a few kilometers of the Venezuelan coast, but the Americans have deemed the entire ocean north of Venezuela as military operations. The people in charge probably don't even know Curacao isn't part of Venezuela.

With effectively no military and the Dutch government being an American lapdog, I doubt the people in charge need to care. They're already out there with orders to commit war crimes, shooting down an airliner or two that gets too close to their military aircraft wouldn't make much of a difference in the long run.

[fusslo]

> The people in charge probably don't even know Curacao isn't part of Venezuela

assuming Lieutenant General Evan Lamar Pettus is in charge

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but yeah, he probably doesn't know Curacao isn't part of Venezuela.

[ceejayoz]

“Lieutenant General Evan Lamar Pettus” is not “in charge”.

Trump and Hegseth are.

[fusslo]

are you suggesting trump and hegseth planned the refueling route?

Be real.

[jasonlotito]

> Curacao is a few kilometers of the Venezuelan coast, but the Americans have deemed the entire ocean north of Venezuela as military operations.

Are you suggesting Lieutenant General Evan Lamar Pettus did that? Or Hegseth and Trump? Because that's clearly what hte parent was referencing. So, please, explain to me how Lieutenant General Pettus deemed the entire ocean north of Venezuela as military operations on their own without the involvement of Hegseth or Trump. Or admit you are wrong.

[ceejayoz]

Pettus won't have planned the route, either.

(Hegseth may've accidentally texted it to a reporter, though. That'd be on brand.)

It's very clear that the upthread comment was referring to the administration - headed by a guy prone to word salad and outright lies - not the folks way, way down the chain doing the flight plans.

[nrhrjrjrjtntbt]

The camel has taken a lot of straw in 2025 but:

> shooting down an airliner or two that gets too close to their military aircraft wouldn't make much of a difference in the long run.

Would surely break its back?

[jeroenhd]

I used to think that about so many things the Americans have been doing that I no longer have faith that there is a limit to the absurdity.

[nosianu]

Look, I understand, but we have a concrete event here that is being discussed and there is no evidence anywhere for what you came up with. Adding feeling-based imagination instead of sticking to facts just makes the discussion much worse - and much closer to behavior you seem to object to.

[nucleardog]

This same comment could be posted verbatim on practically any past discussion about terrible things that have happened and been happening. At what point is it fair to raise or discuss the bigger problems?

[Fluorescence]

Did the the camel gain a single stalk when the Vincennes crossed into Iranian territory and shot down a passenger jet?

[sigwinch]

Yes. Of course. It ended the tanker war.

Iraq and Iran had been pissant slap-fighting over oil tankers for years. The tanker war ended with the Vincennes incident.

[Fluorescence]

A "straw on the camel's back" would mean the war crime earned negative domestic political repercussions.

"Ending the Tanker War" is clearly not that. It was the deployment's objective so I fear there are ghouls who would celebrate it.

[TitaRusell]

The Americans literally want Venezuela to shoot at them so that they can use it as a justification.

But Maduro ain't no fool.

What people may not know is that Curacao- like many Carribbean islands- is entirely dependent on tourism. Basically they're fucked.

[t0mas88]

Well this was a JetBlue airliner, presumably full of American tourists. Probably not a very popular move to shoot that down.