[delecti]

They view EVs as a moral threat. Can't get cognitive dissonance about your neighbor's dope new EV with perks your new ICE doesn't have, if your neighbor can't get EVs either. Loads of examples of "this is worse, so we're going to make it worse, so we're sure that it is worse".

[wagwang]

I wish my ev has dope perks... too bad California is dead set on making EV charging more expensive then gas lol.

[delecti]

Yeah, I was being a bit glib about that part.

IMO, the biggest perk is dependent on the ability to charge at home. If you can, then the price per mile is about half (if Google is right that California rates are about $0.30/kWh) or less than for an ICE. But even if the $/mile were equal, never needing to visit a gas station again is itself the biggest perk.

And sure there are people for whom an EV won't meet their range needs, but probably way fewer than think that's the case for them.

[bradlys]

It’s closer to 0.40-0.70c/kwh. My lowest rate is $0.40c/kwh and that goes away insanely fast just doing almost nothing. PGE is criminally priced in CA. I get maybe 200kwh before it jumps to $0.50/kwh rate and will keep jumping.

I don’t have AC. I don’t have anything. That’s just a fridge, computer, and a little bit of cooking. Genuinely have no idea how I even hit 10kwh/day because I have nearly nothing on in this place.

[ghaff]

>But even if the $/mile were equal, never needing to visit a gas station again is itself the biggest perk.

I maybe fuel up once a month unless I'm doing a road trip. It isn't that big a deal.

[dyauspitr]

Charge at home, that’s the whole point. My F150 lightning costs about $14 in electric charges a month for about 600 miles on average.

[sowbug]

Home electricity in California is about 45¢/kWh. If your F150 mileage is typical, you're getting about 2 miles per kWh. 600 miles would cost about $135 here in California. Meanwhile, a 20 mpg gas car would cost about $110/month at $3.65/gallon.

You must be paying about 4.7 cents per kWh, or about 90% less than you'd pay here.

[rootusrootus]

That's only certain parts of California, right? I mean, a big part, but definitely not all of it. PG&E is a tire fire, I feel bad for you guys.

[sowbug]

Everywhere I can reach with an extension cord. :)

[NetMageSCW]

One would think that California would be the first place to have regulations for cheap electricity.

[dyauspitr]

7c/kWh, 11c/kWh at peak hours

Those prices are wild.

[PaulDavisThe1st]

They also view the Chinese as a moral threat. They'd rather set the country on fire than cede the territory that small Chinese EVs could take (which, given current American consumer preferences, would likely be rather small.