[maddmann]

Are you arguing that the difficulty of producing a fully functioning poc is no different today than 2-3 years ago?!

Personally, I’ve been writing software for 10 years professionally. It is much easier, especially for someone with little coding experience, to create a quite complex and fully featured web app.

It makes sense that ai models are leveraging frameworks like next js/react/supabase, they are trained/tuned on a very clear stack that is more compatible with how models function. Of course those tools have high value regardless of ai. But ai has rapidly lowered the barrier to entry, and allows be to go much much farther, much faster.

[conartist6]

No, I'm arguing that it's gotten steadily easier and easier to build high-level projects all the time over the last 20 years. React is obviously a huge part of that. There's a zillion React tutorials out there, so the value of making React accessible to beginners -- once again, that value was not created by AI, but rather by bloggers and youtubers and conversational evangelists.

I also just don't think "going fast" in that sense is such a big a deal. You're talking about frantic speed. I think about speed in terms of growth. The goal is to build sturdy foundations so that you keep growing on an exponential track. Being in a frantic hurry to finish building your foundations is not a good omen for the quality of what will be built on them.

[maddmann]

New software may end up being less about legacy foundations and more about bespoke software, fast iteration, throw away single purpose code, etc.

AI is likely to change fundamental paradigms around software design by significantly decreasing the cost of a line of code/feature/bugfix/and or starting from scratch and enabling more stakeholders to help produce software.

[ponector]

3 years ago you throw hundreds of dollars to the Upwork and have an app in result. Nowadays it's much cheaper/faster with LLM, but the difficulty is pretty much the same.