[raw_anon_1111]

And then we should be helping them on the state and federal level. I have replied a couple of times here that I have no problem with my tax dollars going to help them.

Unfortunately, they overwhelmingly vote for politicians that believe just the opposite on the state and federal level.

[xienze]

> And then we should be helping them on the state and federal level.

That’ll just lead to people on the opposite side of the spectrum (politically and in terms of being more urban) asking why their tax dollars are going towards a bunch of rednecks living in the middle of nowhere and destroying the earth with their heavily car-dependent lifestyles. _They should move to the city if they want a fire department! Otherwise, pay for it yourself or quit yer bitchin!_

> Unfortunately, they overwhelmingly vote for politicians that believe just the opposite on the state and federal level.

Perhaps the reason is because the people they “should” be voting for, according to you, are tied to a lot of social policies that these rural folks find deeply disagreeable. In a similar vein, if the 2024 Republican president campaigned on true free healthcare and massive taxes for the rich, you wouldn’t chide Democrat voters for not voting for that candidate on account of his social policies, now would you?

[raw_anon_1111]

If the Republican politician campaigned on universal healthcare a larger social safety net etc I would be all for it.

But all that being said, I wouldn’t vote for a Democrat that said they wanted free health care and also bring back segregation and laws against miscegenation. The first affects me and everyone in my family and the second would affect my son and my soon to be daughter in law.

Democrats are not saying they want universal healthcare only for blue areas.

[pavel_lishin]

You're fine with your tax dollars going to help them, but not your time?

[raw_anon_1111]

It’s taking my best to even go that far seeing they continue to deify people who demean people that look like me and say I - someone who has been coding either as a hobby or professional for literally 40 years - only got ahead because of “DEI”.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/11/charlie-kirk...

They can’t afford $5000 a year for software. I work in consulting, that is less than half of what my company bills me out for a week as a staff consultant.

[iamnothere]

You shouldn’t be stereotyping rural people like this. Rural communities differ wildly in population and political leanings. On average they are older, whiter, and Republican voting, but this is shifting. Many small communities that were dying out are being revitalized as artist colonies and tourist zones, and many active farming communities are gradually becoming more Hispanic. Framing urban vs rural as red vs blue plays into the hands of the divide-and-conquer strategy that elites use to prevent the population from successfully pursuing radical change.

[raw_anon_1111]

How many rural communities in the United States by population didn’t vote overwhelmingly Republican?

Suburbs of Austin is not what people call rural America

[iamnothere]

If you look at a precinct-level map of election results you’ll see speckles of blue everywhere, as well as areas that were narrowly split. Those speckles represent real communities with people living in them. You can’t just write them off.

There’s also small towns or clusters of homes in the middle of nowhere where most of the residents disagree from the communities surrounding them. They don’t necessarily have enough votes to make a dent, but they also exist.

Assuming people’s politics or worth based on where they live leads to unpleasant outcomes.

[raw_anon_1111]

Whose writing them off? I have repeatedly said that I have no issues with taxpayer funded assistance on the federal and tax level. But you can’t help people who are more interested in “owning the libs” and “fighting wokism”.

[iamnothere]

I was more responding to the notion that rural = Republican and therefore bad/hopeless. I think it’s a mischaracterization that needs to die before we can make real progress towards reform in this country.

Rural people face different challenges than urban people, although there’s some overlap. Finding agreement on the overlap—while attempting to solve the unique urban and rural problems in parallel—would be more effective than the tug of war that we have now. US politics has developed a winner-take-all attitude that’s clearly not working.

[raw_anon_1111]

So exactly how am I as a Black man suppose to find “overlap” with people who deify Charlie Kirk and claim the only reason I got ahead was “DEI”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/11/charlie-kirk...

Even though I’ve been coding as a hobby or professionally for 40 years - and have done my bid in BigTech?

How is a gay/trans person suppose to find common ground with someone who literally thinks the country is going to be consumed in fire just because it’s legal for them to get married?

How is Latin American going to find common ground with someone who thinks they are taking their jobs, at the same time are not working getting welfare and lowering test scores and keeping them from affording housing? Oh yeah abs it’s only because of H1B visas that rural American can’t get one of them good tech jobs.

The only reason they are opposed to “socialist” programs is because there is an off chance that someone who doesn’t look like them might benefit.

Oh and by the way, I had a house built in Forsyth county and lived there for 6 years and moved to Florida and downsized when I knew I would be working remotely and after my youngest graduated. Yeah this Forsyth County.

https://youtu.be/WErjPmFulQ0?si=MVrJUwjZ2DfonHjw

Those folks haven’t gone anywhere. They have been overrun by more of the Romney/Bush type conservatives moving in.

You still see in Facebook groups where they are opposed to a Hindu temple nearby. But not opposed to a large church.

Myself, my wife, my (step)son and his (white) fiance still get disapproving looks there (where my son still lives) that we don’t get when they visited us in Orlando.

It’s not about a difference of “needs”. Yet I as a decently well off tech person continuously vote for policies that would help them and not me.

They are fundamentally opposed to a governmental system that works for everyone.