[UncleMeat]

> The effect of letting in hundreds of people is something you can balance over time, but letting in millions over a relatively short period has both economic and geopolitical ramifications.

Which specific ramifications? It is interesting how often people stop here.

[nis0s]

There’s a lot of information available already, feel free to look it up. No one reasonable says that (legal) immigration is bad, what becomes concerning is mass, unsanctioned movement. I don’t discount the humanitarian crises, which is why I think there needs to be a good faith effort to resolve the issues for people who are impacted by such crises. Sadly, the problem is realpolitikal, and that’s why there is no good faith solution which presents itself.

See here for why immigration can be a net positive force, https://www.bu.edu/articles/2024/do-immigrants-and-immigrati...

And here https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w27075/w270...

See here for why illegal immigration (everywhere, not just the U.S.) can be a destabilizing force,

https://www.cbo.gov/publication/61464

https://www.irli.org/human-trafficking-is-proof-that-illegal...

https://www.unodc.org/documents/toc/factsheets/TOC12_fs_migr...

Some people don’t want to leave their homelands and are forced into it

https://www.armyupress.army.mil/Portals/7/Hot%20Spots/Docume...

So the issue isn’t about racism, mass migration from a country is not a healthy indication of state of affairs, and in some way countries tacitly sanction bad governance by others when they absorb the problems of others. No one should have to leave their homelands for economic or safety reasons.

[leosanchez]

(Not American)

But don't you think letting people from third world countries like mine with corrupt institutions will no way harm institutions in America ?

[UncleMeat]

More specific, please.

A "corrupt institutions" bound to people from various nations?

[leosanchez]

Recent news about fraudsters from Minnesota[0] comes to mind.

[0] https://www.cbsnews.com/news/minnesota-fraud-spent-millions-...

(Yet another disclaimer that I am not an American or ever been to America)

[UncleMeat]

So let me just be clear. You are saying that Somalians are predisposed to commit fraud in ways that Americans are not such that having any Somalians immigrate to the US will increase the amount of fraud here and overall make society worse?

And you want me to believe that this isn't bigoted garbage?

[leosanchez]

So you don't believe that immigration of millions of people from let's say India (my country) which has corrupt institutions and people generally lack civic sense (littering etc.) will not cause issues to America and Americans ?

[UncleMeat]

No. Believing that Indians are all corrupt people without any civic sense who ruin places that they live in is bigoted trash.