[ArcHound]

As with all issues of power abuse, the real question is: "what are you going to do about it?"

If the answer from the workers is an overwhelming "nothing", then there's no reason to change.

And I am not blaming workers. Bills need to be paid, mouths need to be fed. Staying low and taking it might be better than speaking up and risking homelessness.

Please tell me how I am wrong, I struggle to see how the situation could improve.

[AnimalMuppet]

What are we going to do about it? Many of us are withdrawing, just putting in the time without real effort, "quiet quitting". Companies still get us, but they don't get our best.

Some instead turn into... well, in the sports world, they would be called "locker room cancers". People who bring a bad attitude, and communicate it to others.

Either way, companies wind up harmed by this - harmed, eventually, in terms of their bottom lines.

[cons0le]

The only real answer is to unionize. But every time that gets mentioned here, ~90% of people are against it. I notice SWE try to cultivate that "rockstar" persona, the last thing people want to do is admit they need each other / take collective action.

We honestly should have unionized 20 years ago when the outsourcing started

[ArcHound]

I agree. No use in breaking yourself over a "top business priority" that'll change next week.

Maybe I'd dispute the last point - seems companies with such employees can do rather well.

[keybored]

> What are we going to do about it? Many of us are withdrawing, just putting in the time without real effort, "quiet quitting". Companies still get us, but they don't get our best.

That you are framing it for apparent familiarity with the nonsense term quiet-quitting says a lot.

[robocat]

Pedantically there is nothing worse than cliches that are literally nonsense.

Fortunately communication is usually conceptual like a metaphor.

[tehjoker]

Unionization is an approach that would work.