[lode]

First of all, you are conflating Hamas and Hezbollah. Second of all, the stories about beheading of babies and mass rape on October 7, 2023 have been thoroughly debunked. Third: the pager operation caused indiscriminate explosions at places where non-combattant citizens were present. Not very gentlemen-ly (to use your words), and indeed a war crime. Fourth: What they did in Gaza is arguably worse than carpet bombing.

[UltraSane]

But the hundreds of concert goers who Hamas killed is very true. Remember how they paraded the broken body of that young German woman around like a disgusting hunting trophy?

[cess11]

How did you come up with that tally? Israel has refused to comply with requests from international investigators into the matter, likely because a lot of the casualties were due to IDF actions.

I remember the footage of "that young German woman" but it is to me extremely peripheral and did a lot less of an impression than the thousands of images of destroyed baby bodies I've seen that were caused by the IDF. The criminal actions perpetrated by palestinians on October 7th 2023 were pathetic compared to what the israelis have done for decades.

[UltraSane]

Claiming the IDF killed all of these people is a truly despicable lie that destroys your credibility.

On 7 October 2023, the al-Qassam Brigades, the military wing of the Palestinian nationalist Islamist political organization Hamas, initiated a sudden attack on Israel from the Gaza Strip. As part of the attack, 378 people (344 civilians and 34 security personnel) were killed and many more wounded at the Supernova Sukkot Gathering, an open-air music festival during the Jewish holiday of Shemini Atzeret near kibbutz Re'im. Hamas also took 44 people hostage, and men and women were reportedly subject to sexual and gender-based violence. Some 20 of the attackers were also killed by Israeli security forces in the area of the festival.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nova_music_festival_massacre

https://www.barrons.com/news/israel-revises-death-toll-from-...

"I remember the footage of "that young German woman" but it is to me extremely peripheral "

Then you are a horrible person.

"thousands of images of destroyed baby bodies"

You are just lying now.

[cess11]

I did not write "all of these people". I pointed out that the state of Israel has refused to provide conditions for an investigation of what happened, and instead it has mainly been the press and leaks to the press that have shed light on the issue.

What we have known for sure since then is that the IDF brought helicopters to the area where the festival was held and Hellfire:d generously, hence the large amount of burnt cars and the typical markings on asphalt roads and so on that are clearly visible in the early photos.

This and the use of tank artillery against inhabitants of the kibbutzim has caused several scandals in israeli politics and the opposition has been requesting thorough investigation for a long time by now. The IDF calls this policy of killing your own soldiers and civilians the Hannibal directive.

I've been following this genocidal colony for decades, every time they've been "mowing the lawn" as they call it there is a massive amount of imagery of murdered kids coming out of the Gaza strip. The reason you think I'm lying is that you haven't been paying attention, and this is probably also why you react so strongly to a single recording of palestinians parading Shani Louk. It might also just be that you're racist and deem israelis or zionists generally more human than the people they are exterminating.