[ramblerman]

Sorry but as a southern Neighbor you are painting a picture of Europe 20 years ago.

Taxes these days keep up the ponzi scheme of european pensions and an influx of low skilled migrants that are not incentivized to work.

There is a a lot of budget between ur citizens not going bankrupt when they get sick and taking 50% of their salary.

[ethbr1]

> influx of low skilled migrants that are not incentivized to work

Aka a low wage labor pool to plug the youth demographic gap.

If European countries had sustainable fertility rate, then they could be choosy about immigration.

At 1.3-1.5, well, people have to come from somewhere...

[tonfreed]

Real mask off comment here, respect

[ethbr1]

Folks spend so much time talking about second+ order effects of immigration, but it's the economy that's primarily important.

I don't know too many nativists / nationalists who agree with the statement 'I am fine with my country being poorer and worse off economically in exchange for getting rid of immigrants.'

Their political champions bill is as though removing immigrant labor will somehow make the economy better.

Because, yes, when has a smaller, more expensive domestic labor pool ever helped a country's economic competitiveness? /s

[lm28469]

Sure, but the parts you still enjoy wouldn't even exist otherwise. Even the crumbling western european healthcare system is miles ahead of the american one for the average citizen.

It's always been a ponzi scheme, even 20 years ago when you enjoyed it and thought everything was perfect.

> low skilled migrants that are not incentivized to work.

Including all the FIRE people and tech migrants who come to take freebies while not chipping in