[dvt]

I've had this (often drunken) conversation many times, I think mortality is fundamentally ingrained in not just the human condition, but the fabric of our universe. Without the finality of death, life seems to lose its meaning. Not only do we need to die, we are compelled to die, we should die. This memento mori makes every day, ironically, worth living. One of my favorite verses from the Bible is Job 1:21, where he somehow reconciles this tragic finality with trascendent faith:

    “Naked I came from my mother’s womb,
        and naked I will depart.
    The Lord gave and the Lord has taken away;
        may the name of the Lord be praised.”

[undershirt]

> mortality is fundamentally ingrained in not just the human condition, but the fabric of our universe

church fathers say that creation fell because of the fall of man

> Without the finality of death, life seems to lose its meaning. Not only do we need to die, we are compelled to die, we should die

deadlines help. the soul is eternal and there is a deadline for the body

> [Job] somehow reconciles this tragic finality with transcendent faith

he later falls into despair when things get worse, who wouldn’t, but he is made well after he is humbled. this golden moment of humility forges him into a true person, winning him heaven not death

“If you die before you die, then when you die you won’t die.“ Death to the world is the last true rebellion.[1]

[1]: https://deathtotheworld.com

[SoftTalker]

Yes, immortality would be imprisonment. An eternity in this existence with no escape.

It's also the ultimate equalizer. Everyone is born, everyone dies. There's no amount of wealth, luck, work, or misfortune that happens in life that changes this. We all end up as dust.

[cyberpunk]

This was the point at which he conceived his purpose, the thing which would drive him on, and which, as far as he could see, would drive him on forever. It was this. He would insult the Universe. That is, he would insult everybody in it. Individually, personally, one by one, and (this was the thing he really decided to grit his teeth over) in alphabetical order. When people protested to him, as they sometimes had done, that the plan was not merely misguided but actually impossible because of the number of people being born and dying all the time, he would merely fix them with a steely look and say, "A man can dream can't he?"

[saulpw]

And it goes beyond humans: everything that arises must cease.

This is one of the three foundations of existential intelligence (or wisdom).

[thunkle]

What if you live forever on Earth but miss out on a much better place God has created for those who die.