[phkahler]

>> If these corporations can't invest in housing, they'd direct their money elsewhere.

I think that's why they're buying residential - there aren't any other traditional investments that aren't in a bubble or just have low returns. If you anticipate economic collapse or hyper inflation or whatever, physical assets make sense - when you measure wealth in houses you don't care what the dollar does. Gold people can do without, housing not so much. Whatever happens next, people will need a place to live. OTOH the population collapse is also coming so housing doesn't make much sense beyond 2030 or so.

[the_sleaze_]

There will be a squeeze on real estate as the sea level rises and insurance increasingly withdraws from coastal and fire-prone areas.

[quesera]

If insurability becomes a crisis, I'd expect it to reduce housing availability and raise prices for competing (insurable) properties.

Of course it wouldn't happen in isolation, so there are other massive forces to consider.

Maybe wide swathes of formerly-occupied (but now uninsurable) land would sell cheaply enough that middle-income people could build inexpensive semi-disposable vacation cottages, like the old days.

GP's assertion of population collapse in five years is a bit extreme for me!

[phkahler]

>> GP's assertion of population collapse in five years is a bit extreme for me!

Check the population pyramid for the US. the baby boomers are moving into the top part (I call the grinder) where they will die out over the next 20 years. At the bottom, we have 20 years of slowly decreasing births, so the bottom AND top are shrinking. Combine that with current policies stopping immigration and I don't know how the US population can be doing anything but decreasing. College admissions people are talking about the cliff (an exaggeration for sure) in enrolment this year and for years to come. People are also getting married closer to 30, and having much less than 2 children per couple.

[quesera]

"Collapse" is a dramatic word for "slow, orderly, decline". :)

[asdff]

I'd expect to see a surge in self insurance. These areas are so valuable already in a lot of cases where rich people are content to pay six figure property tax bills. Especially with cost of construction being a fraction of that property's value.

[the_sleaze_]

> a surge in self insurance

What is this? Would this just be "putting a little to the side each month" to cover your 12 million dollar loss to Hurricane Micheala ?

[asdff]

It could be as simple as that or something with more structure as well. It won't be a 12 million loss because you own the land already. You are just paying for construction which is a fraction of that value.