[pjmlp]

Unreal devs have Unreal C++ dialect with GC, Blueprints and soon Verve to worry about.

The times of pure manual memory management game engines, across all layers of what requires to draw a frame are long gone.

Naturally someone is going to point out some game engine using compiled C dynamic libraries for scripting, those are the exception.

[johnnyanmac]

>The times of pure manual memory management game engines, across all layers of what requires to draw a frame are long gone.

That's what makes me curious about Rust engines like Bevy. Could is truly pull it off and bring back that kind of thought to game development? It's not "pure manual memory management", but the mindset of Rust requires that kind of thinking.

It will definitely be niche for times to come, since most (non-AAA) games simply aren't going to worry about performance. But it might carve a solid community for those concerned with optimization.

[pjmlp]

Thing is, FPS don't make fun games, what makes games fun is a great design, delivered in a way that overall performance doesn't hinder the experience.

That is why games like Minecraft, Roblox, Celeste, Balantro make it big. None of them would have happened if the creators followed the advice 100% C coding (or C++ for that matter) was the only way, and yet their design is what made them shine.

[johnnyanmac]

You're not wrong. But consider a different lens:

Celeste isn't a game that would need to worry about performance in 2018. It's 2d sprites with box collisions and relatively minimal particle effects. Your toaster can run Celeste.

But a game like Factorio with heavy simulations and complex interactions and pathing absolutely needs to consider performance to pull off a seemless experience.

Those are the kinds of games I'd hope engines like Bevy could enable farther down the line. Design is still key, but some game types are a larger technical challenge than others.