[jfindper]

"Years of average use" is great until you realize that it actually means "Roughly 12 to 15 hours of recording".

Not sure how long my iphone can record for, but it's probably close to that. Afterwards I get to charge my phone instead of recycle it, though.

Apple, don't hire this man.

Edit for the downvoters: can my iphone not record that long or something? iphones can't recharge? Just hate Apple and love e-waste rings? Enlighten me.

[skeledrew]

At the lower 12-hour end, if you're doing ~10 seconds per recording (remember this device is primarily for very short reminders and quick commands), that's ~4.3k recordings total. Also keep in mind that you'd only use it when it's inconvenient/undesirable to reach for your phone or any other device, so it's possible this may only be used say 5x in a day at most on average (likely far less). Which means ~2.5 years worth of usage at the lower end, and you'd only ever have to take it off if going for a swim.

Contrast to a phone that, though it has far more capability, you'd have to remember where it is before even reaching for it wherever, and usually has to be on a charger for anywhere from 30 minutes (with super charging) to a few hours daily. Or even being at a laptop/desktop, and at least having to open the relevant app, type/talk into it and then close again to return to primary task. The ring is an instant win for 24/7/365 convenient presence.

[pavel_lishin]

> "Years of average use" is great until you realize that it actually means "Roughly 12 to 15 hours of recording".

Is that based on anything, or is that just a guess?

Anyway, 12 hours' worth of 30 second recordings is a total of 1440 recordings. I guess three a day for a year does seem a little low?

> Just hate Apple and love e-waste rings? Enlighten me.

What e-waste? You send it in for recycling; they might just replace the battery and send you a your existing ring back.

[jfindper]

>Is that based on anything, or is that just a guess?

Fancy enough, it's from the article!

Right under the "How long does the battery last?" heading.

[pavel_lishin]

Ah, I see, I didn't ctrl-f far down enough.

[wkat4242]

That's not what recycling is. If you get it back it's recruitment.

[wkat4242]

Sorry I meant refurbishment. Not recruitment. DYAC

[oniony]

You have to trust it will actually get recycled though. I struggle to believe they'll be swapping out the batteries and reselling these as reconditioned. (I struggle to believe many people will even send them in for recycling tbh.)

[wkat4242]

The environmental benefit of sending it in for recycling is probably negated by transporting it all the way back to them for starters. Better to just drop it at the local ewaste collection facility. They'll be less specialised but there isn't a lot of material in it.

I guess there's a market for it and in the scale of things it isn't so bad: you could make 10 disposable vape sticks from the materials in one of these rings. And they're expensive enough that they'll never sell more than 100k or so of them. Relatively speaking it's no measurable impact.

For me it's more a matter of principle though. As a society we frown on disposable gizmos these days and for good reason.