[lkbm]

Sure, in much the same was as lack of food spoilage an upside, not the big metal box I put the food in. But since one is a direct result of the other, we typically treat it as an upside of the thing causing the upside.

[mrwrong]

somebody had to effectively pay you to look at the ads, and you had to pay someone else for your refrigerator. does that distinction make sense?