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by doobiedowner 188 days ago
Wasn’t room 641A just the NSA strong arming At&T to facilitate full take collection?
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monerozcash 188 days ago
Getting AT&T to do that is not the same as getting Google to do that.

AT&T does not have much to lose by doing that, Google does.

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doobiedowner 188 days ago
How do they not have much to lose? They are the ones that have their users on a subscription basis.
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monerozcash 188 days ago
AT&T customers will not (and did not!) leave because of NSA surveillance, and generally don't have that many options anyway.
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morkalork 188 days ago
Were the alternatives any better? I don't recall any telecom companies committing to warrant canaries or the like. And speaking of, whatever happened to those?
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monerozcash 188 days ago
> Were the alternatives any better? I don't recall any telecom companies committing to warrant canaries or the like.

Well, no. But Google does significant business in foreign countries and doesn't really want to give an excuse for foreign governments to start aggressively pursuing their own alternatives.

> And speaking of, whatever happened to those?

Cloudflare still has a warrant canary on their transparency report page, Reddit deleted theirs in 2016.

They were never very common.

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