[berdario]

> I doubt even someone as big as Samsung will be willing or able to develop their own alternative OS

Huawei pulled it out with HarmonyOS (I don't know how good/bad is it, and if it'll have staying power, but other companies are putting in the effort)

PS: btw, Samsung already had its own, non-Android OS with Bada (of course, developing a new OS is only the first step, getting it to be successful wouldn't be easy)

[Telaneo]

Huawei has a whole-ass Chinese government behind it with quite a lot of incentives to move away from Google. Samsung does not. Heck, China's making its own GPUs and x86 CPUs. They're not great, but when the incentives over there are that strong, the market forces are clearly in a whole different universe compared to the rest of the world.

Bada lasted, what, 3 years? So it did better than Firefox OS (unless you want to count KaiOS as the same thing), but not by much? Not a great look I'd say. And things haven't gotten any easier during the past 15 years, with Apple and Google's positions being more entrenched than ever.

[palata]

> Huawei has a whole-ass Chinese government behind it

I don't like how Chinese companies systematically get reduced to "it's because the government can help them". The US TooBigTech get a ton of help from the US government, starting with political pressures when other countries want to regulate them.

Huawei have really good technology and very competent engineers. It's not the Chinese government that does the engineering.

DJI is years ahead of everybody else technologically, and that's again not the Chinese government doing the engineering. Let's stop believing that the US are superior in every single way and that someone else doing better means that they must be cheating.

[Xss3]

Equally lets not forget that china sees this as a key strategic necessity for a forced reunification attempt on taiwan, both for national security and the ability to produce chips solo.

Two things can be true. They can have great engineers and government money. Theyre not mutually exclusive.

[palata]

Governments all over the world try to support their economies. It's not just a Chinese thing. How much does the western world invest in LLMs? But for some reason, we only call it "cheating" when China does it and is more successful than us.

[Xss3]

What an outburst lol. I didnt call it cheating. Its just as worth noting as when it happens elsewhere. Perhaps you should stop reading what isnt there.

[palata]

Where did I say you called it cheating? From where I stand, you're reading what isn't there.