[throw310822]

If Russia decided to full-on invade Ireland, a country of 4.5 million (as completely absurd as this idea is, being Ireland where it is) having its own military would not help Ireland- it should better capitulate quickly to limit damage.

[TulliusCicero]

There's a similar population ratio between the PRC and Taiwan I believe, so I guess Taiwan should just give up on having a military entirely then?

Not possible for them to stop China, so why bother? Just lie back and think of Ireland.

[Avicebron]

Russia invading Ireland would be like China invading Cuba.. there's a geo in geopolitics for a reason..

[Lio]

Would it not be more like Russia invading Königsberg?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaliningrad

[Ekaros]

Well if they had reached Atlantic before that...

[throw310822]

If Taiwan weren't defended by the US (for purely strategic interests, certainly not because of idealism or democracy) then yes, sure. Better than a destructive war with the same identical outcome.

Btw, do you also happen to think that Ireland should arm itself against a possible invasion from the US?

[tim333]

Ireland mostly managed to kick out the British.

[dralley]

What? The very distance involved and difficulty of such an invasion is precisely why resistance is extremely plausible and not being able to do so is indefensible. Even a "token" amount of resistance makes it exponentially more difficult.

You would certainly have been the type of person whining about how Ukraine was doomed to fall in a matter of hours under the incredible size and capability of the Russian military. Like, these guys are just not that competent. You can make the job nearly impossible for them by just giving a single solitary fuck.

To say nothing of the fact that "full invasion" isn't even really the target. They just need to be able to defend their own airspace and sea lanes against errant Russian planes and ships.

[throw310822]

> The very distance involved and difficulty of such an invasion is precisely why resistance is extremely plausible

Not to mention the possibility of an invasion from Australia. They should prepare against that, too! See, the whole premise of this discussion is completely absurd: there is no threat whatsoever by Russia to Ireland. There's a narrative that gets pushed more every day that Europe is under threat from Russia and should gear up for a war, and even (say some) attack first. Notice that all the drones spotted above airports and military installations are only alleged to belong to Russia, but not a single one has been reasonably attributed to them. And the party that has most to gain from an increase in the tension between Europe and Russia is Ukraine, not Russia.

> You would certainly have been the type of person whining about how Ukraine was doomed to fall

And I was right, as it seems, hundreds of thousands of deaths later, cities razed to the ground, a country in ruins. Those who didn't want peace talks share in part the responsibility of those deaths, do you ever think about it?

[Lio]

Perhaps you missed the confirmed Russian spy boat surveying cables going into Dublin?

They’re not doing that because they want to give out free hugs.

https://www.rte.ie/news/primetime/2024/1115/1481145-russian-...

[throw310822]

A closely surveilled Russian vessel that was briefly seen several kms away from undersea cables. Meanwhile, the only confirmed hostile act against European infrastructure was the sabotage of the Nord Stream pipelines, and the perpetrators were our "allies", Ukraine and the US.

[Lio]

We don't know who the perpetrators were. There's speculation that it was carried out by Russia itself.

Your blaming it on Ukraine and US without proof, much like your suggestions that Ukraine should surrender to stop the war, is suspcious.

Face facts, Russia could stop the war anytime they like because they started it. Where as for Ukraine surrending doesn't stop the mass killings or the kidnapping of their children.

We know that because in areas that have been conquered by Russia these things have continued.

[thfuran]

No, they need to be able to defend their elections and social media from Russian interference.

[throw310822]

It would be time that people take responsibility again for their own (and their countries') choices instead of blaming everything wrong on the mythical bogeyman Russia.