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by morpheos137 194 days ago
I see lots of people complaining about this down time but in actuality is it really that big a deal to have 30 minutes of down time or whatever. It's not like anything behind cloudflare is "mission critical" in the sense that lives are at stake or even a huge amount of money is at stake. In many developed countries the electric power service has local down times on occasion. That's more important than not being able to load a website. I agree if CF is offering a certain standard of reliability and not meeting it then they should offer prorated refunds for the unexpected down time but otherwise I am not seeing what the big deal is here.
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ljm 194 days ago
> It's not like anything behind cloudflare is "mission critical" in the sense that lives are at stake or even a huge amount of money is at stake.

This is far too dismissive of how disruptive the downtime can be and it sets the bar way too low for a company so deeply entangled in global internet infrastructure.

I don’t think you can make such an assertion with any degree of credibility.

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odie5533 194 days ago
> It's not like anything behind cloudflare is "mission critical" in the sense that lives are at stake or even a huge amount of money is at stake.

Yes, there are lots of mission critical systems that use cloudflare and lives and huge amounts of money are at stake.

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morpheos137 194 days ago
Can you provide an example of lives being at stake because of a cloud flare outage?
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kortilla 193 days ago
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bombcar 194 days ago
30 minutes of downtime is fine for most things, including Amazon.

30 minutes of unplanned downtime for infrastructure is unacceptable; but we’re tending to accept it. AWS or Cloudflare have positioned themselves as The Internet so they need to be held to a higher standard.

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moritonal 194 days ago
I am confident there is at least a few hospitals, gp offices or ticketing systems that interact directly or indirectly with Cloud flare. They've sold themselves as a major defence in security.
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therein 194 days ago
> about this down time but in actuality is it really that big a deal to have 30 minutes of down time or whatever. It's not like anything behind cloudflare is "mission critical" in the sense that lives are at stake or even a huge amount of money is at stake.

This reads like sarcasm. But I guess it is not. Yes, you are a CDN, a major one at that. 30 minutes of downtime or "whatever" is not acceptable. I worked at traffic teams of social networks that looked at themselves as that mission critical. CF is absolutely that critical and it is definitely lives at stake.

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