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by bee_rider 198 days ago
Yeah, HBO has moved decidedly down market.

Apple is at least trying to fill their old niche. It seems quite telling that the only company truing to do the whole “prestige TV” thing is a kind of side-project for a hardware company. At least nobody can buy them, though.
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throwaway902984 197 days ago
Apple has a family friendly bent that HBO had been degraded by sadly. Disnified. Adult oriented HBO quality shows don't exist anymore do they?
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bee_rider 197 days ago
Apple seems to have a no-nudity policy more or less (or at least, minimal nudity).

I dunno. Sex is part of human existence so it shouldn’t be off-limits for media IMO. But the sort of perfunctory thing where every show on Netflix or HBO has to have some nudity in the first couple episodes was a bit annoying. I don’t mind the lack of nudity in Apple’s stuff. There’s a balance that Apple falls on the “overly conservative” side of, though.

What’s adult mean to you? Nudity, violence, I dunno. Severance considers things like self-identity and the fake personalities, and fake social constructs of our workplaces… it seems more adult to me than a gangster or cowboy story.

I also quite like Pluribus, it feels like actual sci-fi (in the same way 3 Body Problem from Netflix does, actually—legit sci-fi, not action heroes in space).

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throwaway902984 188 days ago
Ah, good point on Severance; that is a proper example. That there is no unnecessary nudity probably helps the story. Old HBO would have had shower scenes and hook ups interspersed throughout. That might not have hurt, but I don't see the need for it in that show at all.

If you'll excuse my rant; certain tenors of violence and styles of humor are the trend I think that makes things childish. You see the one liners and plot points of marvel movies echoed in some of HBO's high profile shows now. Rebel Moon is, with your criticisms, the type of movie/show the other streaming services have been too eager to make imo. Adult in childish ways, and absent a seriousness in the way it expresses serious plot points.

Hope you're having a good one

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andsoitis 198 days ago
> Apple

do we really want big tech to also control our media?

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bee_rider 198 days ago
> want

I described what is happening, not what I want to have happen.

Anyway it is entertainment media, not news media, so less of a big deal. But yeah it would be nice if somebody else tried.

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