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by mierz00 194 days ago
I don’t do well with 100% working from home.

My preference is 3 days in the office, I find anything less than that and I struggle mentally. My home starts to feel like a prison and I lose connection with people.

I really value human connection and I just don’t get the same thing online.

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> I really value human connection and I just don’t get the same thing online.

Check out meetups! Bars! Reading groups at your library! Gym classes!

Funnily, I do a lot of those things. I have a bunch of hobbies that are very social.

But for me it’s not really that. It’s about walking in a place and knowing everyone, having small talk and feeling comfortable chatting.

Work takes up a lot of time, so I prefer to have that along side it. Rather than only in my spare time. I

I relate to that and I think the real reason some people struggle to believe that is because not everyone has a great work environment at work. I have one, I actually look forward to coming to the office sometimes.
This is key, I’ve had great work environments where we’ve had lots of fun solving problems together.
Why not use a co-working space? I found it was the best of all worlds when your "coworkers" have no relationship with your "boss".
I was pondering this, because my team is very small, so I don't get to interact with all that many people at the office (the people I interact with will 90% of the time be elsewhere anyway).

But apart from that it seems like the worst of both worlds? You still have to commute there, you can't reasonably expect to have peace and quiet since it's mostly open space (or if it's a closed office, how's that better than staying home?), and you don't even get to see your colleagues.

In my case, what I hate with the office is the commute and the random noise people make (phone calls, chats, whatever). I rather like my colleagues, so it's not like I want to avoid those people specifically.

Not the previous commenter, but co-working spaces are few and far between in most of the world, plus they can be expensive if the employee is the one paying.

As for the coworkers not knowing your boss thing, I agree, although in a more positive framing – it can be helpful to have a work social group that isn't in your reporting chain. You can get this at many medium sized and up companies.

Or better yet, a therapist. Work is literally THE worst place to make human connections because it is a business first and foremost (yes, go ahead and post how it’s not true – it won’t change a thing).
> Work is literally THE worst place to make human connections

I don't necessarily disagree, but I make a slightly different argument, in that, humans will make human connections, whether they like it or not, and the most typical human experience is to make stronger and stronger connections with people you see regularly. Furthermore, depending on the company, there's the desire to be a part of something bigger, there's social conditioning setting in to prove yourself among your peers, there's the desire to not appear like you're lazy.

Where I think you'll agree is that your company will 100% exploit these human aspects of you to get a better margin on the value of your labor vs the compensation they pay you.

Let me clarify my point: in the absence of life outside of work, work is the worst place to make connections. If you treat work as “just” a complementary source of connections, then it is fine. But if it’s your only source, then you need to get of this situation asap.
At my last work place everyone talked about how great therapy was. Curious I decided to try it myself.

Turns out therapy was great, it made me realise that my work place was toxic and since leaving I haven’t needed a therapist again!

I really like co-working spaces, but not enough to pay for them when I have an office I can go to.