[esseph]

I was responding to:

> even managing a few hundred nodes and maybe 10,000 containers, relatively small - I update once a year and the managed cluster updates machine images and versions automatically. Are people trying to self host kubernetes for production cases, and that’s where this pain comes from?

Much of the pain of kubernetes is not the day to day care and feeding of the applications most of the time, it's managing the cluster itself, upgrades, hardware, etc.

Many regulated industries can not run certain workloads in "the cloud", hence where the pain of running kubernetes (at least at first) comes from.