[jfindper]

We finally have a blog that no one (yet) has accused of being ai generated, so obviously we just have to start accusing comments of being ai. Can't read for more than 2 seconds on this site without someone yelling "ai!".

For what it's worth, even if the parent comment was directly submitted by chatgpt themselves, your comment brought significantly less value to the conversation.

[probably_wrong]

It's the natural response. AI fans are routinely injecting themselves into every conversation here to somehow talk about AI ("I bet an AI tool would have found the issue faster") and AI is forcing itself onto every product. Comments dissing anything that sounds even remotely like AI is the logical response of someone who is fed up.

[jfindper]

Every other headline and conversation having ai is super annoying.

But also, its super annoying to sift through people saying "the word critical was used, this is obviously ai!". not to mention it really fucking sucks when you're the person who wrote something and people start chanting "ai slop! ai slop!". like, how am i going to prove is not AI?

I can't wait until ai gets good enough that no one can tell the difference (or ai completely busts and disappears, although that's unlikely), and we can go back to just commenting about whether something was interesting or educational or whatever instead of analyzing how many em-dashes someone used pre-2020 and extrapolating whether their latest post has 1 more em-dashes then their average post so that we can get our pitchforks out and chase them away.

[anonymous908213]

LLMs will never get good enough that no one can tell the difference, because the technology is fundamentally incapable of it, nor will it ever completely disappear, because the technology has real use cases that can be run at a massive profit.

Since LLMs are here to stay, what we actually need is for humans to get better at recognising LLM slop, and stop allowing our communication spaces to be rotted by slop articles and slop comments. It's weird that people find this concept objectional. It was historically a given that if a spambot posted a copy-pasted message, the comment would be flagged and removed. Now the spambot comments are randomly generated, and we're okay with it because it appears vaguely-but-not-actually-human-like. That conversations are devolving into this is actually the failure of HN moderation for allowing spambots to proliferate unscathed, rather than the users calling out the most blatantly obvious cases.

[jfindper]

Do you think the original comment posted by quapster was "slop" equivalent to a copy-paste spam bot?

The only spam I see in this chain is the flagged post by electric_muse.

It's actually kind of ironic you bring up copy-paste spam bots. Because people fucking love to copy-paste "ai slop" on every comment and article that uses any punctuation rarer than a period.

[anonymous908213]

> Do you think the original comment posted by quapster was "slop" equivalent to a copy-paste spam bot?

Yes: the original comment is unequivocally slop that genuinely gives me a headache to read.

It's not just "using any punctuation rarer than a period": it's the overuse and misuse of punctuation that serves as a tell.

Humans don't needlessly use a colon in every single sentence they write: abusing punctuation like this is actually really fucking irritating.

Of course, it goes beyond the punctuation: there is zero substance to the actual output, either.

> What's wild is that nothing here is exotic: subdomain enumeration, unauthenticated API, over-privileged token, minified JS leaking internals.

> Least privilege, token scoping, and proper isolation are friction in the sales process, so they get bolted on later, if at all.

This stupid pattern of LLMs listing off jargon like they're buzzwords does not add to the conversation. Perhaps the usage of jargon lulls people into a false sense of believing that what is being said is deeply meaningful and intelligent. It is not. It is rot for your brain.

[jfindper]

"it's not just x, it's y" is an ai pattern and you just said:

>"It's not just "using any punctuation rarer than a period": it's the overuse and misuse of punctuation that serves as a tell."

So, I'm actually pretty sure you're just copy-pasting my comments into chatgpt to generate troll-slop replies, and I'd rather not converse with obvious ai slop.

[Despyte]

Cultural acceptance of conversation with AI should've come because of actual AI that are indistinguishable from humans, being forced to swallow recognizable if not blatant LLM slop and turn a blind eye feels unfair

[jfindper]

the original comment in this chain is not blatant llm slop.