| > I actually don't like cycling infrastructure because it makes bikes less numerous on the road and drivers less aware that there maybe cyclists. Have you ever been to the Netherlands or other places where utility cycling is actually encourages? One of his latest videos debunks vehicular cycling, which I very much agree with. In places were people who are easily frightened by cars cycle, modal share for bikes is huge. In place where they don't cycle, modal share is pitiful. It makes a ton of sense, and as someone who doesn't actually ride bikes for sports/fitness/fun, it's something I definitely agree with based on personal experience. > I am aware of all the arguments. I've heard them all before. Nothing you have mentioned is new. Nothing what they will say is new. I didn't realize I'm arguing with God, over here. As we all know there was no progress since the Romans, including the fact that these days people still pray to Roman Gods, this discussion is over. |
Yes.
> One of his latest videos debunks vehicular cycling, which I very much agree with.
> In places were people who are easily frightened by cars cycle, modal share for bikes is huge. In place where they don't cycle, modal share is pitiful.
> It makes a ton of sense, and as someone who doesn't actually ride bikes for sports/fitness/fun, it's something I definitely agree with based on personal experience.
"It has been debooked™ because YouTuber said so!" /sarcasm
Can you stop regurgitating stuff a YouTuber has told you? I've formed my opinion after 20 years of cycle commuting and cycling in multiple countries, going to protests and meeting people.
BTW I am pretty sure I've seen these videos before after quickly skimming the titles and thumbnails.
> I didn't realize I'm arguing with God, over here.
The point I am trying to make is that I've heard all the arguments before. They don't change that much. That is because the fundamental disagreement hasn't changed.
I don't have this opinion due to arrogance. I have this opinion because I've heard these arguments you are making before. I told you why I am not convinced, I've listed the reasons why and your response has been "but this Youtuber said X".
Saying that someone has a video which has the same argument that I wasn't convinced by before, isn't going to change my mind.
> As we all know there was no progress since the Romans,
The point I was trying to make is that because the Human condition is something that is not going to go away and almost all conflict is almost always over resources, People generally have similar issues, similar conversations about those issues. Taking jabs at me where you take the worst interpretation of my intent isn't conducive to any discussion.