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> you could say preconceived just as easily

Would have saved us from all the people who reject any sort of optimization work because for them it is always "too early" since some product team wanted their new feature in production yesterday, and users waiting 5 seconds for a page load isn't considered bad enough just yet.

[Capricorn2481]

Premature optimization doesn't mean "We have an obvious fix sitting in front of us that will definitely improve things."

It means "We think we have something that could help performance based on a dubiously applicable idea, but we have no real workload to measure it on. But we're going to do it anyway."

So it doesn't save us from anything, it potentially delays launching and gives us the same result that product team would have given us, but more expensive.

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Yes, you and me understand that quote, probably mostly because we've both read all the text around the quote too, not just the quote itself. But there is a lot of people who dogmatically follow things other's write about without first digging deeper, and it's these people I was talking about before. Lots of people seemingly run on whatever soundbites they can remember.

[cratermoon]

While I know the paper pretty well, I still tend to phrase my objections by asking something along the lines of "do you have any benchmarks for the effects of that change?"

[PunchyHamster]

> It means "We think we have something that could help performance based on a dubiously applicable idea, but we have no real workload to measure it on. But we're going to do it anyway."

the problem is that it doesn't say that directly so people without experience take it at face value.

[qu4z-2]

The commonly cited source says, when you take the entire sentence, "We should forget about small efficiencies, say about 97% of the time: premature optimization is the root of all evil." and continues "Yet we should not pass up our opportunities in that critical 3%."

There's only so much you can do with people who will not even take the complete original sentence, let alone the context. (That said, "premature optimisation is the root of all evil" is much snappier so I do see why it's ended up being quoted in isolation)