[felixfurtak]

This is pretty much all that OpenAI is at the moment.

Mozilla is a non-profit that is only sustained by the generous wealthy benefactor (Google) to give the illusion that there is competition in the browser market.

OpenAI is a non-profit funded by a generous wealthy benefactor (Microsoft).

Ideas of IPO and profitability are all just pipe dreams in Altmans imagination.

[shridharxp]

Few months ago, the founder was talking about "AGI" and ridiculous universal basic compute. At this point, I don't even know whom to believe. My first hand experience tells ChatGPT and even ClaudeCode are no where near the expertise they are touted to be. Yet, the marketing by these companies is so immense that you get washed away, you don't know who are agents and who are putting their true opinions.

[fragmede]

> My first hand experience tells ChatGPT and even ClaudeCode are no where near the expertise they are touted to be

Not doubting you, but where specifically have the latest models fallen short for you?

[shridharxp]

ClaudeCode:

- Making functions async without need; it doesn't know the difference between the two or in which scenarios to use them.

- Consistently fails to make changes to the frontend if a project grows above 5000 LOC or a file goes near 1000 LOC.

- The worst part is it lies after making changes.

ChatGPT:

- Fails to implement mid-complex functionality such as scrolling to the bottom when new logs are coming in and not scrolling when the user is checking historical logs.

These models are good at mainstream tasks, the snippets of which you find a lot in repositories. Try to do something off-beat such as algorithmic trading; they fail spectacularly.

[rurp]

I'm unsure how someone could use LLMs regularly and not encounter significant mistakes. I use them a lot less than some devs and still run into basic errors pretty often, to the point that I rarely bother using them for niche or complicated problems even though they are pretty helpful in other cases. Just in the past few days I've had Claude trip all over itself on multiple basic tasks.

One case was asking how to do a straightforward thing with a popular open source JavaScript library, right in the sweet spot of what models should excel at. Claude's whole approach was completely broken because it relied on a hallucinated library parameter that didn't exist and didn't have an equivalent. It invented a keyword that doesn't appear in the entire open source library repo, to control functionality the library doesn't have.

[fragmede]

Care to share a chat link?

[elAhmo]

> Mozilla is a non-profit that is only sustained by the generous wealthy benefactor (Google) to give the illusion that there is competition in the browser market.

Good way of phrasing things. Kinda sad to read this, I tried to react with 'wait there is competition in the browser market', but it is not a great argument to make - without money for using Google as a default search engine, Mozilla would effectively collapse.

[chii]

> Mozilla would effectively collapse.

given how bloated it (the org) is, i think that may be a good thing. Return firefox to good old community contributions, and donations from users.

[blackenedgem]

The main issue there is you need someway to pay the engineers in that transitional period the moment Mozilla collapses. Otherwise they leave, find new jobs, and you lose all the expertise and knowledge of the codebase.