[creata]

> And they never will, until they make people like you and me LOVE Firefox again.

What are the sorts of features you think they should consider adding?

[bbor]

Random thought, but Kagi is acting like I wish Mozilla would. Their main product is a search engine, but they’ve been trying out a slew of other initiatives, all of which seem well thought out and integrate LLMs in an exclusively thoughtful, opt-in way. Surely many of them will end up being failures, but I can’t help but be impressed.

Maybe it’s because I’m a power user and they tend to cater to power users, idk — that’s definitely what the comment above yours is hinting at.

But at this point, I think we can all agree that whatever Mozilla is doing now isn’t working… so maybe power users are worth a shot again?

[dralley]

If Mozilla tried to do something like Kagi, they would likely be castigated by half of HN for "yet another side project adventure"

[bbor]

Search is quite the undertaking, so I'm not really hoping that Mozilla takes that on in particular. I'm just pointing out the odd reality that I tend to trust Kagi (a for-profit) to fight the general good fight in a way I agree with more than I trust Mozilla (a non-profit).

[akimbostrawman]

No because that would actually be a feature worth adding and actually make it a privacy browser instead of a funnel for data to Google.

[akimbostrawman]

Just copy librewolf/mullvad Browser and become actually a private browser. Create self hosted alternative to Google services like Brave has.