[torben-friis]

There was a trend of devs being their own QA.

Also devs being infra (devops).

Also devs being PMs (product developers).

Also devs being managers (flat orgs).

Also devs being facilitators (rotative scrum masters).

I wonder why expertise is being lost.

[hedora]

This also leads to devs burning out, because you’ve listed a bunch of jobs most programmers hate, whether or not they happen to be able to do them well.

That causes churn, which further erodes expertise.

[torben-friis]

Yup.

And dealing with the product of any of those topics half assed by a non expert colleague is cause for burnout too.

Pipelines that fail, poorly thought tests, badly written docs… Which reminds me I forgot to add technical writers to the list.

[concinds]

But Apple still has a separate Q&A team, and didn't fold them into the main dev roles like Microsoft. There's job openings listed on their website right now.

[malloci]

Was a trend?