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by Arathorn 207 days ago
We did address the elephant eventually with https://github.com/element-hq/element-admin a few months ago.

In terms of VoIP interop - yes, one of the worst bits of Matrix is that the legacy 1:1 VoIP calling is not interoperable with MatrixRTC-based (multiparty) VoIP calling, but we ran out of time/cash to implement interop and instead focused on making MatrixRTC work well. (Does XMPP give you E2EE multiparty calling ooi?)
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The_President 207 days ago
Thank you Aaron for the direct response. Glad to see the central interface for administrative use. Haven't had the need to use the calling feature in a while. One of the hurdles with the Rust client on Fdroid was it was too new for the OS on the device it needed to be used on, but on iOS it was a performance improvement.

One of the genius ideas behind Element was the ecosystem of clients services that attach to rooms, and in some cases XMPP does not reach those expectations. I do plan on a redeployment soon after creating a new technical scope for its use.

I like what I can observe of the new admin interface. I hope it can come to include security and configuration check guidances to provide tools for admins of all skillsets to properly configure their servers, and related TURN-or-not and storage.

Matrix is bigtime like XMPP - I don't think it's going anywhere anytime soon. Thankful for all that it has provided to our organizations.

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The_President 207 days ago
Another cashflow idea, as if you don't think of many yourself: A white-label version of Element (called something else) that can be deployed as scoped to an organization and based on an LTS release schedule. We'd gladly pay for this.
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Arathorn 206 days ago
That is Element’s current business model: https://element.io/en/pro-app and https://element.io/server-suite/pro.
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The_President 206 days ago
Looks excellent, sharp website - and I'll admit I hadn't looked for the white label app before talking shit. That offering looks excellent - I see an opportunity for a white label tier between community and enterprise for small/medium orgs with pricing listed on the website.
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Tmpod 206 days ago
Well, I can't check if it is still a thing today, but Element's managed servers used to allow you to do that, at least for the web app (though I had the idea they also did that for the old mobile apps?)

Here's a couple of links:

https://element.io/blog/custom-branding/

https://element.io/blog/a-white-label-messaging-app-to-creat...

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The_President 206 days ago
They've been on their game with this product, which hadn't been on my radar until Aaron's response above.
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