[philipallstar]

> Only to suddenly adopt authoritarian, anti-free speech, anti-human rights, and anti-protest stances the moment free speech began to critique Israel.

It's not sudden. The West's hate speech laws have been coming for ages. Anyone silly enough to put that much enforcement over speech into play cannot now complain that it's being used against people they like.

[soulofmischief]

This US-centric take blatantly fails to address all of the problems, the right-wing ideologies, which have easily had a much greater impact on the rise of fascism across the world.

And to be clear, US liberalism is largely supportive of right-wing ideology, the US Democratic party would be considered a right-wing party in many other countries. So it's both parties who are to blame here, but the underlying authoritarian fascist current is decidedly right-wing politics

[philipallstar]

This was nothing to do with the US. I was actually thinking about the UK's laws when I wrote it.

I'm trying to talk ideas; your post is riddled with just identifying which team is the goodies and the baddies. I don't think there's much common ground to be had between discussing ideas vs tribalism.

[soulofmischief]

They're all the baddies, at least in the US. You must have missed the part where I described both parties as contributing to authoritarian fascism.

It's ridiculous to accuse me of peddling tribalism when my post intentionally pushed back against the very tribalism coloring your original post.

Can we get back on topic?

[philipallstar]

> It's ridiculous to accuse me of peddling tribalism when my post intentionally pushed back against the very tribalism coloring your original post.

No it didn't. You said this has just appeared, when actually it's been happening for years.

[soulofmischief]

Are you confusing me with the other user you replied to higher up?

[tremon]

Yes, you were thinking of the UK's laws, but from the perspective of the US Constitution. There's an implicit tribalism in your own post where you assume without contest that the US' definition of free speech is the only one that can possibly have merit.

[philipallstar]

I'm not a US citizen. You're making all this up.