[fragmede]

> And the great thing is it works even if the kid is just checking the box.

Maybe if you limit it to STEM degrees. There are plenty of people saddled with humanities degrees that haber no hope of paying off the loans taken to get the degree, nevermind a job past barista.

[snowwrestler]

No, what I’m saying is that if a kid takes a college writing class and does enough to pass it, at the end that kid will be a better writer. Even if they did not like the class.

[fragmede]

I misunderstood you. In that regard, you're totally right!