[lazide]

Musk was born in South Africa to a wealthy diamond mine owner (Dad) and Canadian model+dietician (Mom), and is a ‘confirmed non believer’ per his own public statements. His whole family seems not particularly religious.

The extended musk family is from all over, however, including Canada, England, American, etc. but he seems pretty clearly a mongrel.

[quesera]

That's as WASPy as WASPy gets.

It's not important that the specimen is an active Protestant. The point is that their ancestry (with some decent adjacency to: white, anglo-saxon, protestant) landed them in a place of general privilege.

Musk is a WASP by any definition.

But it's always been a pejorative, and always used as a cudgel. Musk is not responsible for his ancestry. But he certainly benefited from it.

[lazide]

Bwahaha. So not Anglo-Saxon. Not Protestant. But somehow he is. But white.

How is this not just blatant racism again?

[quesera]

WASP was always a pejorative way of saying "established white European-ancestry American aristocracy".

It never applied to poor white people. It is just a label for the most common and most established phenotype in early America, up to and including the mid-20th century.

The label has lost salience over the intervening decades, but it has not faded down to be lost in the ambient level of population wealth and power.

What's your point here?

[lazide]

Read the thread. People definitely are applying it to white as a race, and trying to portray everyone (including poor whites) as benefitting.

It’s part of the general race war type rhetoric which has been building for awhile.

What do you think my point is?

[quesera]

I have no idea what your point is.

AFAICT, you intentionally goaded this thread into a dissection of WASP-vs-white, which serves zero purpose except to give you a chance to espouse something which you still haven't done, but strikes me as likely to be pretty boring after all of this.

[astrange]

> Musk was born in South Africa to a wealthy diamond mine owner (Dad)

This is something like ~4 steps away from what happened, to the point it's not true at all. (He was a part owner in an emerald mining operation in another country, it wasn't his main business, and they were middle class.)

Btw when I say from Northern England, I mean by descent, not where he grew up.

Not that I want to get into defending him since he's killed 600k people this year.

> and is a ‘confirmed non believer’ per his own public statements.

That's as Anglican as it gets. It's like a version of Protestantism you're not supposed to believe in.

[lazide]

Cite? I’m just going off publicly available info. If Wikipedia and everything else I’ve read is that far off, I’d love to hear it!

[astrange]

https://xpresstime.com/was-elon-musk-born-rich-a-complete-20...