[Herring]

> this is a deliberate choice to make labor less powerful...

To be fair, though, I don't trust modern labor either if they can't figure out how to NOT vote for a rapist pedophile real-estate billionaire. Twice. Including a pandemic and a coup.

What a mess we find ourselves in.

[zanellato19]

I think labor is worried about a bunch of practical things that the Democrats didn't know how to communicate and Trump did.

Did he mislead them? Yes but honestly, so did a lot of Democrats.

All that to say, yes, but Capital has a lot more resources available to mess with people's head.

[Herring]

Idk man, I'm pretty sure there's more going on than that. Look at this study for example https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11109-024-10000-8

Normal people would become more liberal.

Or look at how badly teachers are treated https://www.census.gov/library/visualizations/interactive/te...

Or look at the way Americans punished Democrats really hard after Obamacare https://www.quorum.us/data-driven-insights/under-obama-democ... Democrats won't make that mistake again of listening to Bernie any time soon.

Or look at how bad the coronavirus response was, for such a rich country.

Something's deeply wrong with American political culture, like from watching too much Game of Thrones or something. It’s not just being misled, it’s ingrained.

I think for many Cruelty <=> Power. Like how guns make them feel powerful. I wasn't born here originally so I don't really get it (thank god). It won't end well.